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  • Just wondering will there be another series that will pick up from where omniverse left off and the ben 10 reboot just gets cancelled early. Why ?? because I think ben 10 having a reboot is horrible idea.

    Plus why call the reboot just ben 10 like give it a title instead of confusing people with the original series

    What can be done to help Cartoon Network understand the reboot sucks and they should have instead had a sequel.

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      • The Reboot sucks? Yes.
      • Mainstream Ben 10? You mean the original? Yes, it is dead.
      • Will there be another series to pick up after Omniverse? Never.
      • Reboot gets cancelled early? No. Shows don't get cancelled. The makers have already made all episodes. If anything goes wrong (such as low ratings etc.), CN will just wrap up the show by showing all episodes faster and ending it. And repeats will be fewer.
      • Ben 10 having a reboot is a horrible idea? For old time fans that have watched every single episode of Ben 10 since the very first one, who are now probably at least 15-16 years old now, like us, yes. But for majority of the kids who actually watch cartoons? No. Rebooting the series was important. Mainstream Ben 10, as you call it, is actually 10-11 years old. Today's generation kids have not watched Ben 10 since the beginning. I know, young kids in my neighbourhood who watched Omniverse had no clue who were the original aliens and all. And also, you must understand that CN is a big company and thinks before making any decisions. If they decided to reboot Ben 10 then there has to have been really good reasons for it.
      • Why call the reboot just Ben 10? It's a new beginning. Why give a title? Also, nobody is really confused with the original series. The young kids are unaware of the original series, and us older fans clearly know the difference.
      • What can be done to make CN understand? Nothing.
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    • The reboot might be terrible, but all these fans that try to make petitions, send angry letters and even send death threats are not going to do anything to change the show, much less cancel it.

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    • I think the reboot is unneeded for the series. Though if it skyrockets in views or sales, we won't be able to stop it. I honestly think that a sequel to Omniverse is far fetched. Though if we hope, there could still be a continuation to Omniverse.

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    • I don't agree with any of you. I don't see what is wrong with the reboot. Yes It's not the best series ever. It's not even the best Ben 10 series ever. I'm sure many of you hoped there would be a continuation of Omniverse (like I did), but even though we didn't exactly get what we want, the reboot is not that bad. I've made a counter-argument against some of the common statemends that I've heard about why people don't like the Reboot, and I put it in a video (not to advertise my channel). I'll post it and you can watch it, and then see if the reboot sucks. Click here to watch. Plus, how many of you even watched any episodes. You probably only saw a few, and decided it sucked. I've watched 26 out of 30. Remember when Omniverse came out, and people got angry about the weird looking animation? But we got used to it, so the same thing should happen with the reboot.

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    • I would like to disagree. I have watched all the 30 episodes, and I still find that it sucks. Badly. It is just way to kiddish and stupid. It's not just the animation. The animation is bad but still tolerable, but the storylines and action sequences are just intolerable. I mean Diamondhead in Freaky Gwen Ben fought Hex by jumping 30 feet in the air and punching him. Come On!

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    • But that was just one example of an action sequence that wasn't good. And how is childish and stupid?

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    • Yes. That was just one example. There are many more, but don't expect me to type them all out. I think anyone who watches the series can understand how stupid and childish it is.

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    • I rather see no ben 10 for 10 years then to have that dirty reboot.

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    • Well looks like we have different opinions

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    • Ben 10 died in 2014, this imposter that goes by the same name is no Ben 10 series.

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    • It actually is. Just cuz you don't like it doesn't mean it's not a real Ben 10 series.

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    • While I can't truthfully say I've watched a full episode of the reboot, I can say that I don't care for the animation or the new alien designs. I really do hate how they made the aliens look more human. That's about my only reason for disliking the reboot. Oh, and it does feel childish to me.

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    • I seen a few eps on the reboot

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    • Unless you're a child that's going to buy the toys and other merchandise, they don't care what you think.

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    • Yep. the franchise is dead in the water. and you can thank the executives like Ted Turner for milking more money from an existing franchise. Humanity now cannot even create any new idea and instead steal other peoples creations and claim it as theirs. its baffling to me that we let this happen. What ever happened to people like Einstein, Sagan, and the rest of the geniuses of long past. I pray to god that we will get geniuses back in the 21st century.

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    • Bring Back main ben 10

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    • The reboot is completely garbage compared to the rest of the series. Or compared to anything at all, it is complete garbage.

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    • Ben 10 Reboot doesn't exactly suck. It is just a little corny and the characters are too less powerful, but it is fun to watch. When I first heard about Reboot I didn't like it, But after I watched "Something I ate" I started loving it and I'm going to finish it.


      Watch it before you complain.

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    • FYI to all people commenting I seen a few eps. Isn't it too soon to reboot Ben anyway ?

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    • Does Cartoon Network and MOA care if us fans dosen't like the reboot ?

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    • This reboot is in every way bad. I can barely watch a few episodes before turning it off. I am enraged beyond words on what CN has done to my favorite childhood show. 

      Man of Action has fallen so greatly, it's ridiculous they went from making quality shows like Generator Rex and Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes to making a laughable reboot that makes Voltron: Legendary Defender looks like the Mona Lisa. Seriously! Grown men making a show that doesn't even treat kids with respect. I will never do that to any child.

      I'm not even sure whether I should watch Mega Man and Big Hero 6 (TV series) because they're making it as well.

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    • UpchuckTwister wrote: Ben 10 Reboot doesn't exactly suck. It is just a little corny and the characters are too less powerful, but it is fun to watch. When I first heard about Reboot I didn't like it, But after I watched "Something I ate" I started loving it and I'm going to finish it.


      Watch it before you complain.

      We all have watched it, thats why we're complaining, if you like it good for you really. But the rest of us want actual action, want storylines with big reveals and twists. What we dont want is another teen titans go.

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    • Should make a anti ben 10 reboot site ? To help get a better Ben 10 series ?

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    • Honestly that wouldn't help, once a reboot/show is made that's pretty much it. I guess the only to stop the reboot would be if it's ratings dropped dramatically, but even so there wouldn't be a way to do that. Plus if it were to happen, all it would probably do is just get it canceled without them wanting to attempt another crack at the series.

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    • I agree. Making an anti-ben 10 reboot site or wiki won't help. Trigger009 basically explained everything.

      It's ridiculous that it got renewed for a second season, despite overwhelmingly negative reviews from critics and fans and having mediocre ratings.

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    • Plus isn't it too soon to reboot the series ?

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    • Reboot has not even completed a season. And tbh Reboot is an improving show, there were more action in the later episodes, like "Don't let the bass drop" or "All Wet"


      I'm starting to like reboot more than usual. It could be the best Ben 10 series in a few months

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    • UpchuckTwister wrote: Reboot has not even completed a season. And tbh Reboot is an improving show, there were more action in the later episodes, like "Don't let the bass drop" or "All Wet"


      I'm starting to like reboot more than usual. It could be the best Ben 10 series in a few months

      Maybe it is improving, but it still is far far behind the original 4 shows. There is just no comparison.

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    • They replaced Omniverse with Ben 10 Go, we know how Teen Titans went after Go was added to the name of the show.

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    • UpchuckTwister wrote: Reboot has not even completed a season. And tbh Reboot is an improving show, there were more action in the later episodes, like "Don't let the bass drop" or "All Wet"


      I'm starting to like reboot more than usual. It could be the best Ben 10 series in a few months

      This will never be the best Ben 10 series, the level of quality is that of both teen titans go, and that dreadful powerpuff girls reboot. It makes the exact same mistakes as those 2 with the biggest problem being the focus on comedy.

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    • Ultimate Alien was the worst out of the 4 true series of Ben 10 in my eyes and it runs rings round the Go version of Ben 10 that stands in what should've been a fifth true Ben 10 series place. The Go version is awful, MLP looks more watchable than it and I'm never going to watch MLP!

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    • Mlp isnt actually bad, i know you were probably thrown off by of course the ponies and its preexisting content and series, but this new series actually has more character development, story arcs, likeable and unique characters and cool villians, and most importantly heart. It has everything Teen Titans go/Powerpuff girls 2016/Ben 10 reboot doesn't have.

      Also i agree Ultimate Alien was terrible, there was like No difference between it and Alien Force, plus it had nothing but filler episodes, and was boring.

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    • Trigger009 wrote:
      Mlp isnt actually bad, i know you were probably thrown off by of course the ponies and its preexisting content and series, but this new series actually has more character development, story arcs, likeable and unique characters and cool villians, and most importantly heart. It has everything Teen Titans go/Powerpuff girls 2016/Ben 10 reboot doesn't have.

      Also i agree Ultimate Alien was terrible, there was like No difference between it and Alien Force, plus it had nothing but filler episodes, and was boring.

      I though the first season of Ultimate Alien was alright. But yeah, Season 2 had a ridiculous amount of filler episodes but that was due to the death of Dwayne McDuffie which hurt the production of the show.

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    • Dwayne McDuffie was also involved with the writing for Ultimate Alien season 2 onwards. He was even involved with the writing for the first story arc of Omniverse before he finally passed away. Go ahead and check the writing credits for those very seasons. You'll find him listed in there.

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    • Do you think they should retitle the Reboot by calling it :

      Ben 10: Action

      Ben 10: The Reboot

      Ben 10: Adventures

      I am Ben 10

      Instead of simply calling it "Ben 10" so no one gets confused of the Original

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    • Rarevidslover wrote: Do you think they should retitle the Reboot by calling it :

      Ben 10: Action

      Ben 10: The Reboot

      Ben 10: Adventures

      I am Ben 10

      Instead of simply calling it "Ben 10" so no one gets confused of the Original

      I don't think anyone is getting confused. Everyone, even people who don't follow Ben 10 know that it is a different show. The only confusion might be of it being the same continuity, but in that case, except for calling it Ben 10: Reboot, the problem still remains. But many kids any way don't know the meaning of 'reboot'.

      Anyway, I don't see how the reboot is a problem. The Spider-Man movies have got a reboot and they are just fine.

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    • Shocker03 wrote:

      Rarevidslover wrote: Do you think they should retitle the Reboot by calling it :

      Ben 10: Action

      Ben 10: The Reboot

      Ben 10: Adventures

      I am Ben 10

      Instead of simply calling it "Ben 10" so no one gets confused of the Original

      I don't think anyone is getting confused. Everyone, even people who don't follow Ben 10 know that it is a different show. The only confusion might be of it being the same continuity, but in that case, except for calling it Ben 10: Reboot, the problem still remains. But many kids any way don't know the meaning of 'reboot'.

      Anyway, I don't see how the reboot is a problem. The Spider-Man movies have got a reboot and they are just fine.

      You cant actually compare the live action spiderman reboot to the Ben 10 reboot, as it is on a drastically different level.

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    • umm... yeah. you're right. But I have spoken with people who have seen the reboot and they were okay with the fact that it was a reboot and not a sequel to the original shows. So the effect is kind of the same.

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    • I very much wanted a reboot to happen after how messed up the continuity had gotten in Omniverse, but not like this. Not like this at all. The reboot is just exclusively aimed at kids unlike the other series which arguably had a larger demographic.

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    • Same here. I want a reboot for Ben 10 to happen as well for the same reason but not in this very direction. I would've much rather prefer a new sequel to the original Ben 10 as a reboot. The original Ben 10 really does need a better sequel than the sequel shows that we got. At the very least, they could've just went with a new story instead of just using the very same premise as the original show for a reboot. If they actually wanted to introduce the new generation of kids to the Ben 10 framchise, it really would've been better to just do a fully advertised rerun of the original show; especially since that it's better and more affordable than just wasting a bunch of resources making a new show that's unnecessary and mediocre. If Cartoon Network wanted to sell more merchandise, do a rerun of the original Ben 10 show and set up a new merchandise line based on the original show. There's a reason why the original Ben 10 show earned billions of dollars worth of merchandise during its first run. After doing a rerun to introduce the new generation of kids and other newcomers to Ben 10, make a new sequel that is more suitable for the original show and the franchise as a whole and has a much better direction and much better treatment than what we got before. It's a much better direction to take the franchise towards; especially better than the current reboot that we got.

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    • Rarevidslover wrote:
      Just wondering will there be another series that will pick up from where omniverse left off and the ben 10 reboot just gets cancelled early. Why ?? because I think ben 10 having a reboot is horrible idea.

      Plus why call the reboot just ben 10 like give it a title instead of confusing people with the original series

      What can be done to help Cartoon Network understand the reboot sucks and they should have instead had a sequel.

      I am able to concur towards the fact that the reboot is very terrible through the fact has nothing in common with the Original Series outside of the premise (albeit with much lesser quality and a different tone), the names of most of the characters (along with Ben retaining Tara Strong as his voice actress), and most of the alien forms that are available in this new prototype Omnitrix (although their designs look very different from the designs that thet had in both the Original Series and the sequels). Heck, the reboot is even more worse than Race Against Time.

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    • The reboot would be good if it was fan made

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    • Is Ben 10 reboot a troll show like how TTG is ?

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    • Pretty much.

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    • Well put it this way the reboot is like the Teen Titans GO! of Ben 10.

      But this is probably the fourth worst reboot cartoon network has to give us.

      The others include Teen Titans Go!, Powerpuff Girls, Cloudy with a chance of meatballs and Justice League action

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    • Justice League: Action isn't bad. It actually focuses more on the action and plot than the comedy, and the art style is better than the other series you mentioned.

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    • Also Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs is a prequel, not a reboot.

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    • UltiVerse wrote:
      Justice League: Action isn't bad. It actually focuses more on the action and plot than the comedy, and the art style is better than the other series you mentioned.

      1 the episodes are too short

      2 most of the designs look ugly 

      3 Firestorm, Boster gold and flash are annyoing

      4 i hate wonder woman and superman put together

      5 voice acting is terible

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    • i like the reboot.It is aimed to kids who have not watched the old show.It is like teen titans go! people hate it due to 1. nistalgia and 2.they arent the modern kids who like that kind of stuff. if the old show never existed, or this came first, what would be your favorate?

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    • That is honestly a bad argument.

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    • He's basically saying he's part of the intended demographic.

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    • Spiderjett wrote:
      if the old show never existed, or this came first, what would be your favorate?

      We won' t be saying how much it sucks but we also won't be talking about it. Or care about it

      How old are you ?



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    • I am actually going to say this i might have only seen a few episodes of the reboot and i actually think the reboot is actually better than teen titans go here are the reasons:

      1 they act like their age

      2 they actually fight villains in every episode instead of themselves.

      3 at least they do something during the day instead of just sitting in the rustbucket

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    • Shocker03 wrote:
      *The Reboot sucks? Yes.
      • Mainstream Ben 10? You mean the original? Yes, it is dead.
      • Will there be another series to pick up after Omniverse? Never.
      • Reboot gets cancelled early? No. Shows don't get cancelled. The makers have already made all episodes. If anything goes wrong (such as low ratings etc.), CN will just wrap up the show by showing all episodes faster and ending it. And repeats will be fewer.
      • Ben 10 having a reboot is a horrible idea? For old time fans that have watched every single episode of Ben 10 since the very first one, who are now probably at least 15-16 years old now, like us, yes. But for majority of the kids who actually watch cartoons? No. Rebooting the series was important. Mainstream Ben 10, as you call it, is actually 10-11 years old. Today's generation kids have not watched Ben 10 since the beginning. I know, young kids in my neighbourhood who watched Omniverse had no clue who were the original aliens and all. And also, you must understand that CN is a big company and thinks before making any decisions. If they decided to reboot Ben 10 then there has to have been really good reasons for it.
      • Why call the reboot just Ben 10? It's a new beginning. Why give a title? Also, nobody is really confused with the original series. The young kids are unaware of the original series, and us older fans clearly know the difference.
      • What can be done to make CN understand? Nothing. 

      I am actually 17 and is it wrong for me to be a fan?

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    •  

      I always hear people saying" the  reboot is aimed at a younger audience"

      and come on I'm 11 and I hate the reboot its stupid.

      so someone explain to me, why does it suck?i cant believe that people that made generator rex and ben 10

      made something like this.

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    • Spiderjett wrote:
      i like the reboot.It is aimed to kids who have not watched the old show.It is like teen titans go! people hate it due to 1. nistalgia and 2.they arent the modern kids who like that kind of stuff. 

      what?

      im a kid and i hate teen titans go ,the  reboot  of ben 10.

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    • Inferrrno wrote:
      Spiderjett wrote:
      i like the reboot.It is aimed to kids who have not watched the old show.It is like teen titans go! people hate it due to 1. nistalgia and 2.they arent the modern kids who like that kind of stuff. 
      what?

      im a kid and i hate teen titans go ,the  reboot  of ben 10.

      I think even though it's aimed toward younger children its aimed towards less mature children because of the vass majority of kids with "Fidget Spinners" and thinking they are cool becasue they have "Roblox Girlfriends" those type of kids are the aimed audience. Other kids don't like Teen Titans Go too because they are looking for a real superhero shows the mature children are not taken into account. Its the kids that like "Kim Possible" "Teen Titans" "The orignal 4 Ben 10 series" I don't think that's fair 2000-2007 kids are non-existent to CN I think Nick might just take over for cartoons.

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    • Cartoon Network must be earning a lot of money by riding the gravy train of ben 10 while aiming it at an audiance of 5-12 year olds. 

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    • KFCcloseddown wrote:
      Cartoon Network must be earning a lot of money by riding the gravy train of ben 10 while aiming it at an audiance of 5-12 year olds. 

      I think they are just doing what the new gen of kids like. So they rebooted ben 10 into a 2017 version so kids would recall ben 10 from their older brothers and sisters and kinda take on the tradition or something.

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    • yes Ben 10 is dead

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    • Nope

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    • Isn't young justice coming back to CN with the 3rd season ?

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    • Not to CN, it'll be released through digital streaming services.

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    • Rarevidslover wrote:
      Isn't young justice coming back to CN with the 3rd season ?

      On neflix

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    • Gracekim12 wrote:
      Rarevidslover wrote:
      Isn't young justice coming back to CN with the 3rd season ?
      On neflix

      Not Netflix. It will be released on DC's Online subscription along with the live action version of Teen Titans.

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    • So CN dosen't want to air the trilling 3rd season of YJ why ?? Are they really going to reject long form animated action 

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    • I don't know the reason why exactly, i think there's an answer somewhere, but what you said isnt the case. Besides now that it's going to be released on digital streaming services, they can be more mature and push a boundary here and there. And CN have there rules and guidelines, so Young Justice is better off without CN.

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    • Make a proper Ben 10 series and broadcast it via digital streaming service, it'll be better than the rubbish CN are showing.

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    • I am sorry but the rate Cartoon Network is going. They might as well start a channel called Cartoon Network Jr because of all the stupid shows it is putting on like Teen Titans Go!, PPG (2016), Ben 10 (2016), DC Super Heroes girls, Justice League action, Uncle Grandpa, The amazing world of gumball. e.t.e I could go on and on but i am not gonna. 

      Like all the good shows are gone: Pokamon, Regular Show, Adventure Time, We Bare Bears, Transformers Robots in discuss (2015), Yo Kai Watch (UK only) , Steven Universe (coming to the point)

      I just littrally just give up on Cartoon Network to the point where i just watch my stuff online instead.

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    • Trigger009 wrote:
      I don't know the reason why exactly, i think there's an answer somewhere, but what you said isnt the case. Besides now that it's going to be released on digital streaming services, they can be more mature and push a boundary here and there. And CN have there rules and guidelines, so Young Justice is better off without CN.

      And even IF they put there again (Which will NEVER happen)...we'll just be right back where we started. Barely lasting a season before getting canned again. Don't even get me started on the hiatuses they put that show through - especially Season 2. 

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    • Its a shame that WB animation don't have a channel equivalent to Cartoon Network, Disney XD and Nickelodeon. Warner Brothers at one time had Kids WB on a broadcast network.

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    • Superbike10 wrote:
      Its a shame that WB animation don't have a channel equivalent to Cartoon Network, Disney XD and Nickelodeon. Warner Brothers at one time had Kids WB on a broadcast network.

      That means they can put in their own boundries for the shows they create.

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    • I hate the reboot due to the way the animation is done in the reboot.  The way they draw Stinkfly in the reboot looks stupid.  Stinkfly in the reboot does not even have compound eyes which he should have since he is an insect alien.  I wonder why they made Stinkfly in the reboot look more like Big Chill but with wings like the original Stinkfly.  I did not care for the way the animation was done in Ben 10: Omniverse but it was a whole lot better than the way the animation is done in the reboot.

      I also preferred the thirty-minute episodes of the Original series than how they show two episodes within thirty minutes with the reboot of Ben 10.

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    • DoctorVenom wrote:
      I hate the reboot due to the way the animation is done in the reboot.  The way they draw Stinkfly in the reboot looks stupid.  Stinkfly in the reboot does not even have compound eyes which he should have since he is an insect alien.  I wonder why they made Stinkfly in the reboot look more like Big Chill but with wings like the original Stinkfly.  I did not care for the way the animation was done in Ben 10: Omniverse but it was a whole lot better than the way the animation is done in the reboot.

      I also preferred the thirty-minute episodes of the Original series than how they show two episodes within thirty minutes with the reboot of Ben 10.

      They made it shorter because modern kids have low attention spans and are stupid.

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    • Hambo3663 wrote:
      DoctorVenom wrote:
      I hate the reboot due to the way the animation is done in the reboot.  The way they draw Stinkfly in the reboot looks stupid.  Stinkfly in the reboot does not even have compound eyes which he should have since he is an insect alien.  I wonder why they made Stinkfly in the reboot look more like Big Chill but with wings like the original Stinkfly.  I did not care for the way the animation was done in Ben 10: Omniverse but it was a whole lot better than the way the animation is done in the reboot.

      I also preferred the thirty-minute episodes of the Original series than how they show two episodes within thirty minutes with the reboot of Ben 10.

      They made it shorter because modern kids have low attention spans and are stupid.

      That's rude and not true at all.

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    • Mojo331 wrote:
      Hambo3663 wrote:
      DoctorVenom wrote:
      I hate the reboot due to the way the animation is done in the reboot.  The way they draw Stinkfly in the reboot looks stupid.  Stinkfly in the reboot does not even have compound eyes which he should have since he is an insect alien.  I wonder why they made Stinkfly in the reboot look more like Big Chill but with wings like the original Stinkfly.  I did not care for the way the animation was done in Ben 10: Omniverse but it was a whole lot better than the way the animation is done in the reboot.

      I also preferred the thirty-minute episodes of the Original series than how they show two episodes within thirty minutes with the reboot of Ben 10.

      They made it shorter because modern kids have low attention spans and are stupid.

      NM

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    • i'm fine with the reboot

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    • Does CN cares if we don't like the reboot ?

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    • DoctorVenom wrote:
      I hate the reboot due to the way the animation is done in the reboot.  The way they draw Stinkfly in the reboot looks stupid.  Stinkfly in the reboot does not even have compound eyes which he should have since he is an insect alien.  I wonder why they made Stinkfly in the reboot look more like Big Chill but with wings like the original Stinkfly.  I did not care for the way the animation was done in Ben 10: Omniverse but it was a whole lot better than the way the animation is done in the reboot.

      I also preferred the thirty-minute episodes of the Original series than how they show two episodes within thirty minutes with the reboot of Ben 10.

      Stinkfly in the reboot has compound eyes. Stinkfly in OS did not, so I don't get your random complaint about it not having compound eyes since it's an insect alien.

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    • Rarevidslover wrote:
      Does CN cares if we don't like the reboot ?

      Not really, which is bittersweet.

      On one hand, if they listen to fans, they'd just get a bunch of "We want more Four Arms!" or something to that effect, which isn't that desirable, but on the other hand, if they listen to actual criticism, they'd fix things like poor art style, writing, the not so good/bad voices for characters, etc.

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    • Either CN makes something better than this reboot or just cancel the whole franchise.

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    • PrimalFan wrote:
      DoctorVenom wrote:
      I hate the reboot due to the way the animation is done in the reboot.  The way they draw Stinkfly in the reboot looks stupid.  Stinkfly in the reboot does not even have compound eyes which he should have since he is an insect alien.  I wonder why they made Stinkfly in the reboot look more like Big Chill but with wings like the original Stinkfly.  I did not care for the way the animation was done in Ben 10: Omniverse but it was a whole lot better than the way the animation is done in the reboot.

      I also preferred the thirty-minute episodes of the Original series than how they show two episodes within thirty minutes with the reboot of Ben 10.

      Stinkfly in the reboot has compound eyes. Stinkfly in OS did not, so I don't get your random complaint about it not having compound eyes since it's an insect alien.

      So you call Stinkfly's eyes in the picture in the link as compound eyes.  I do not.

      stinkfly-reboot.jpg

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    • Seriously! If I was in charge of these reboots, I would make sure the origin of Ben getting his watch is told in the first episode JUST LIKE THE ORIGINAL, for the powerpuff girls i would make sure the old characters are introduced propperly for the new generation and they actually have a clue about how the girls were created (and not have them being forced to watch a music video just to know this information) and TTG...I would kill off production (that's a lost cause).

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    • Rarevidslover wrote:
      Either CN makes something better than this reboot or just cancel the whole franchise.

      Agreed

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    • DoctorVenom wrote:
      So you call Stinkfly's eyes in the picture in the link as compound eyes.  I do not.

      stinkfly-reboot.jpg


      Those lines in the eyes? Those indicate a grid pattern, which means the eyes are compound. OS Stinkfly did not have compound eyes, he had complex eyes similar to humans.

      Gracekim12 wrote: Seriously! If I was in charge of these reboots, I would make sure the origin of Ben getting his watch is told in the first episode JUST LIKE THE ORIGINAL

      TBH the original story isn't really that big of an issue, since the opening shows a meteorite and any more info than that isn't particularly needed.

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    • I know but letting the new generation know how he got his watch is important if you want them to have some form of clue as to what is going on and how he can change forms etc if they weren't alive to watch the orignial otherwise it looks like the show is ALIENAITING them ;(

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    • not really. How many people who watched Ben 10 when it first aired actually saw the first episode? How many more jumped in half-way through OS, or jumped on during UAF or OV? Children are smart, they don't need to watch the first episode to understand the premise. That's what the adverts are for.

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    • Still, not having an episode where he gets the thing is a little jarring. Even if you don't watch that episode first (god knows I saw ep 2 of OS before ep 1) it's still nice to actually see him get it rather than it just be like "Yeah he already has it moving on now"

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    • Alanomaly wrote:
      Still, not having an episode where he gets the thing is a little jarring. Even if you don't watch that episode first (god knows I saw ep 2 of OS before ep 1) it's still nice to actually see him get it rather than it just be like "Yeah he already has it moving on now"

      They could just do a 2-parter arc where Ben tells the story of him getting the omnitrix.

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    • Yeah, tons of stories/TV shows/games/etc. all jump into the action and then later on explain their origins. In my opinion it's not that jarring.

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    • I don't mean as in not having it at first and then doing it later. That's fine cause that still shows the origins.

      I mean if they don't do it at all. That's the one I have a problem with.

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    • Its likely that the origin in the reboot has some difference than the original series. The opening shows a meteor crashing down to earth.

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    • Not all shows usually start with an origin story. Code Lyoko is a great example; its origin story didn't appear until near the end of Season 3.

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    • When I was a kid I always knew that Ben had this watch called Omnitrix that blah blah blah, but I did enjoy the origin episode

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    • TBH i think that 4 part episode of the reboot was actually good 

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    • Omni-Tricked was actually good, yeah. Even being rewatchable. If only all the Reboot could be like that.

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    • Yeah we could only hope. If the reboot had more episodes like that then maybe i might even start watching it.

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    • Michael Morningstar wrote:
      Not all shows usually start with an origin story. Code Lyoko is a great example; its origin story didn't appear until near the end of Season 3.

      Yeah but that was an orignal show. This show we're on about is ANOTHER reboot of an exisiting franchise so yeah the current generation of children were not alive in the noughties to know how he got his watch. So for the sake of those young ones, the origin needs to be in the first episode to establish who the characters and the main plot.

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    • They can make Ben Taller 

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    • Rarevidslover wrote:
      They can make Ben Taller 

      Yeah he generally does not look like a 10 year old. more like 6!

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    • No... He doesn't look 6. In the Classic Ben 10, before I knew a lot about Ben 10, I thought Ben was 6 because of the way he acted.

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    • Mojo331 wrote:
      No... He doesn't look 6. In the Classic Ben 10, before I knew a lot about Ben 10, I thought Ben was 6 because of the way he acted.

      It's the way he's been drawn. You sure you don't see it? Because I though 10 year olds are... you know taller

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    • 10 year old boys are either going through or haven't hit puberty yet, but he looks around 8-10 to me. Media tends to make ages look differently, because in nearly every single high school movie people look to be in there 20's. Ben looks fine for his age, in my opinion.

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    • ok, then... I'll go now since I didn't grow up with this show even though I was highly aware of it (I was a werid kid back then thinking that because it was aimed at boys I couldn't watch it)

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    • The art style of the show really makes everyone look shorter than they probably are, to me at least.

      For example, in my eyes, Gax looks a lot shorter than he probably actually is, but that's only cause of the art style.

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    • Yeah, that's true. I did like how in Omni-Tricked, Vilgax looked like a giant compared to everyone. There was a scene I believe where Vilgax was across from Four Arms, and you could see the size difference.

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    • There is no such thing as a good reboot episode

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    • Opinions.

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    • Honestly Rare, it seems like you're blindly hating the reboot without trying to find any good, I know some people who really hate the reboot that can at least name two good things about it.

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    • To be honest the reboot isn't a bad show, as a remake it falls into the "so okay it's average" shows (especially considering some certain other reboots *glares at TTG and PPG rebbot). From the start of this reboot it looked mediocre at best, now it might have potential if the writers make something good (seeing a bit of that omni-tricked special, it's atleast putting effort now)

      Edit: Also they finally made a transformation sequence that doesn't look like Ben is being engulfed in a suit)

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    • Though in all honesty I would have preferred if the reboot wasn't like this, as Ultiverse and Ochoa have said above, Omniverse messed up the continuity by having so many unnecessary retcons (my most hated being the rooters arc), they should have instead an alternate sequel series to the original or something better.

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    • Gracekim12 wrote:
      Rarevidslover wrote:
      They can make Ben Taller 
      Yeah he generally does not look like a 10 year old. more like 6!


      You are right about him looking like he is six years old.

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    • Animaltamer7 wrote:
      Though in all honesty I would have preferred if the reboot wasn't like this, as Ultiverse and Ochoa have said above, Omniverse messed up the continuity by having so many unnecessary retcons (my most hated being the rooters arc), they should have instead an alternate sequel series to the original or something better.

      I'd argue retconning the Kevin being an alien retcon is necessary, but OV did it so poorly that it would've been best to ignore Kevin was ever "alien" to begin with.

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    • It wasn't just Omniverse. It was Alien Force and Ultimate Alien as well. Each of the sequel shows kept establishing retcons and changing the continuity around that by the time Omniverse ended, the Ben 10 continuity was an absolute mess. Other than that, yes, a reboot would be the best option to go and I say that rebooting the sequel shows is the direction that the franchise should go. Give the original show a much better and more deserving sequel than what it got. If not that option, then the second best option would be to make a full continuity reboot that implements a different story and premise. Not a reboot that reuses the same exact premise as the original show; especially if the reboot is worse in quality than the original show. It's completely unnecessary to go that very route that Cartoon Network and Man of Action went for.

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    • I never considered the things that UAF shown as retcons. To me, they seem to be expanding on the ideas. It was never stated in the original that Kevin was a mutant, it was just an idea that Man of Action had that wasn't even mentioned in the show, much like how they wanted Animo to get inspired by Ben's aliens to do mutations, which was shown in the reboot. You can argue with me on Gwen, but I also consider her to be expanded upon in UAF. I do agree that Omniverse did retcons though, but I'm one of the few people who likes what is shown.

      Inb4 a rant about the sequels and how CN didn't let MoA do what they want.

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    • I don't consider everything being from some off-world planet "expanding." It feels restricting to just do that, rather than including mutants and magicians as a part of the franchise. It's like if the X-Men mutants were all aliens and Doctor Strange was an alien. It gets boring and predictable after a while where you find something not human and all of a sudden it's some extraterrestrial. If it's alien in the sense of different than human, then yeah, but different as in extraterrestrial? Nah, I'm good. Mutant and magician any day, please.

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    • Kevin is expanding, as it was never stated in the original series. Gwen is a retcon, which I personally have no problems with, but I can see why others do.

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    • Would've been far better to expand him as a mutant rather than just lazily saying "yeah everything is extraterrestrial"

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    • Is the reboot everything Man of Action wants the show to be ?

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    • Well when i was young and i used to be at school a staff used to vind me up say "Ben 10 is dead" well i guess now it is truly dead because of the reboot.

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    • I like the Reboot. It is getting better after every episode. Most of you haven't seen a full episode and call it childish, but I want you to watch a few and you will see it's not that bad compared to TTG and PPG.

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    • "Most of you haven't seen a full episode and call it childish."

      I'm like 98% sure that the majority of the people in this thread have seen full episodes.

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    • It has took a massive drop in quality when compared to previous Ben 10 series.

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    • Almost no argument there. I'd say that applies to most of the reboot but tbh I found Omni-Tricked more enjoyable than plenty OV episodes and even some UAF ones. I'd even go so far as to say Omni-Tricked is better than the Christmas special from OS, but that's not saying much considering that episode was uh....... far from stellar, let's say.

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    • Mojo331 wrote:
      I like the Reboot. It is getting better after every episode. Most of you haven't seen a full episode and call it childish, but I want you to watch a few and you will see it's not that bad compared to TTG and PPG.

      It is on the same level as Justice League action but at least it is nowhere near as bad as Super Hero Squad was.

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    • Inferrrno wrote:
       
      I always hear people saying" the  reboot is aimed at a younger audience"

      and come on I'm 11 and I hate the reboot its stupid.

      so someone explain to me, why does it suck?i cant believe that people that made generator rex and ben 10

      made something like this.


      It is supposedly suppose to be aimed towards younger audience because of the stupid comedy...

      It's a good thing that you didn't like it or else that your entire childhood would have been sort of ruined by a crappy reboot that was used to make money...

      I mean... They are literally seriously just trying to make dumb kids ( No offense but I know that there are some dumb ones who would actually buy those rebooted figurine...) Buy those crap just to make money...

      Whether or not it's selling... I have no clue but rating wise it is really bad.

      I'm just gonna guess that they gave up considering the fact that Dwayne Mcduffie passed on and they couldn't have any other great idea...

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    • I don't understand why some creators think children are stupid. They're not, they're just adapting and learning as they grow up and they deserve GOOD shows to watch at least

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    • Mojo331 wrote:
      I like the Reboot. It is getting better after every episode. Most of you haven't seen a full episode and call it childish, but I want you to watch a few and you will see it's not that bad compared to TTG and PPG.

      And I'm pretty sure that you're a kid then? Or am I wrong to say that you are an adult that somehow prefers the so called reboot? or are you a teen instead?

      It's not childish? It's a bloody cartoon m8! Obviously it's flipping childish! In what manner is a cartoon never childish to begin with???? It always has been childish in a way or another.

      But reboots like TTG, PPG and the Ben 10 Reboot takes the childishness on a whole new other level!

      And it's not even that funny at all. And how is it better?

      It's flipping 12 minutes per episodes compared towards the supposedly 24 minutes per episode! And all they are doing is reuse content from the Original series! So how is it getting better at all? While it has it's pros but it is mostly filled with a crap ton a cons! Iit's really hilarious! And it's not even funny at all to the point that cartoon network as well as various creators are messing up with their own franchises!

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    • Great Ochoa wrote:
      It wasn't just Omniverse. It was Alien Force and Ultimate Alien as well. Each of the sequel shows kept establishing retcons and changing the continuity around that by the time Omniverse ended, the Ben 10 continuity was an absolute mess. Other than that, yes, a reboot would be the best option to go and I say that rebooting the sequel shows is the direction that the franchise should go. Give the original show a much better and more deserving sequel than what it got. If not that option, then the second best option would be to make a full continuity reboot that implements a different story and premise. Not a reboot that reuses the same exact premise as the original show; especially if the reboot is worse in quality than the original show. It's completely unnecessary to go that very route that Cartoon Network and Man of Action went for.

      Well let's be honest here...

      While AF and UA had quite a number of Retcon... Omniverse is by far the one with the most retcon that it's not even funny. To the point that the flashbacks makes it repetitive and annoying to look at.

      Other then the Rooter's arc contradicting a lot of the continuity... The Multiverse arc with the way Ben Prime actually gotten the Omnitrix(Prototype) makes even less sense considering during the OS it was said that Xylene herself... By some mistake sent it to Ben's location instead.

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    • XenonKirito wrote:
      Mojo331 wrote:
      I like the Reboot. It is getting better after every episode. Most of you haven't seen a full episode and call it childish, but I want you to watch a few and you will see it's not that bad compared to TTG and PPG.
      And I'm pretty sure that you're a kid then? Or am I wrong to say that you are an adult that somehow prefers the so called reboot? or are you a teen instead?

      It's not childish? It's a bloody cartoon m8! Obviously it's flipping childish! In what manner is a cartoon never childish to begin with???? It always has been childish in a way or another.

      But reboots like TTG, PPG and the Ben 10 Reboot takes the childishness on a whole new other level!

      And it's not even that funny at all. And how is it better?

      It's flipping 12 minutes per episodes compared towards the supposedly 24 minutes per episode! And all they are doing is reuse content from the Original series! So how is it getting better at all? While it has it's pros but it is mostly filled with a crap ton a cons! Iit's really hilarious! And it's not even funny at all to the point that cartoon network as well as various creators are messing up with their own franchises!


      Haha! It's funny how you say all cartoons are childish. Have you ever seen Family Guy, The Simpsons, etc. Anyway, you are raging over most of the episodes of the Ben 10 Reboot being 11 minutes long instead of 22, and yes, I do agree that 22 minutes is better, but how does that make it as childish as you think? And you say the jokes aren't funny, but there aren't that many jokes in it, and some of them are funny. And I've watched all aired episodes of the Reboot, and it's getting better after every episode. Also, I can tell you that the Ben 10 Reboot is not nearly as bad as TTG and the PPG. The only things I found cringy with the Reboot were the Bentuition shorts, those 50 second shorts, but those shouldn't be used to attack the Reboot, since they are only shorts. The actual episodes are not that bad. And what do you mean "How is it better?" If you mean how is the Reboot better than the PPG and TTG Reboots, there is more action, less cringy, more funny, more watchable, and it gets better after every episode, not worse.

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    • XenonKirito wrote:
      Mojo331 wrote:
      I like the Reboot. It is getting better after every episode. Most of you haven't seen a full episode and call it childish, but I want you to watch a few and you will see it's not that bad compared to TTG and PPG.
      And I'm pretty sure that you're a kid then? Or am I wrong to say that you are an adult that somehow prefers the so called reboot? or are you a teen instead?

      It's not childish? It's a bloody cartoon m8! Obviously it's flipping childish! In what manner is a cartoon never childish to begin with???? It always has been childish in a way or another.

      But reboots like TTG, PPG and the Ben 10 Reboot takes the childishness on a whole new other level!

      And it's not even that funny at all. And how is it better?

      It's flipping 12 minutes per episodes compared towards the supposedly 24 minutes per episode! And all they are doing is reuse content from the Original series! So how is it getting better at all? While it has it's pros but it is mostly filled with a crap ton a cons! Iit's really hilarious! And it's not even funny at all to the point that cartoon network as well as various creators are messing up with their own franchises!

      Mate, where have you been for the last 4 years? Bojack horseman, Rick and Morty, Gravity Falls, Star vs, Milo Murphy's law etc, they're NOT childish until you're living in another world....
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    • XenonKirito wrote:
      Mojo331 wrote:
      I like the Reboot. It is getting better after every episode. Most of you haven't seen a full episode and call it childish, but I want you to watch a few and you will see it's not that bad compared to TTG and PPG.
      And I'm pretty sure that you're a kid then? Or am I wrong to say that you are an adult that somehow prefers the so called reboot? or are you a teen instead?

      It's not childish? It's a bloody cartoon m8! Obviously it's flipping childish! In what manner is a cartoon never childish to begin with???? It always has been childish in a way or another.

      But reboots like TTG, PPG and the Ben 10 Reboot takes the childishness on a whole new other level!

      And it's not even that funny at all. And how is it better?

      It's flipping 12 minutes per episodes compared towards the supposedly 24 minutes per episode! And all they are doing is reuse content from the Original series! So how is it getting better at all? While it has it's pros but it is mostly filled with a crap ton a cons! Iit's really hilarious! And it's not even funny at all to the point that cartoon network as well as various creators are messing up with their own franchises!

      I'm still trying to figure out whether or not to take you seriously.

      In any case, Grace mentioned a few non-childish American cartoons. I'll mention the Japanese cartoons known as anime, as plenty of them deal heavily with adult subjects. Death Note and Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood are two very notable ones.

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    • OK, Ok. Let's stop this argument and ask a question. Suppose, the reboot was the very first Ben Ten show Ever. It would probably have better ratings as we would have nothing to compare it to. So after that, we got a darker show with more violence, would the fans love it or backlash against it saying that the show is supposed to be aimed at kids. Answer me.

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    • Is the Ben 10 reboot a troll show 

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    • Redroesto wrote:
      OK, Ok. Let's stop this argument and ask a question. Suppose, the reboot was the very first Ben Ten show Ever. It would probably have better ratings as we would have nothing to compare it to. So after that, we got a darker show with more violence, would the fans love it or backlash against it saying that the show is supposed to be aimed at kids. Answer me.

      I'd argue that it's still quite possible the show would be negatively received, as plenty of people consider the dialogue and humor to be less than desireable, let's say.

      To answer the quesiton, a show can be aimed at kids and still have a somewhat darker or more mature theme to it, so it really depends on how the darker/more mature theme is handled than anything.

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    • Rarevidslover wrote:
      Is the Ben 10 reboot a troll show 

      I can't figure out if I'm supposed to take this question seriously or not.

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    • Does Cartoon network and man of action read what is going on here ?

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    • Unlikely. Legally they can't take fan ideas, and wouldn't go on the forums.

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    • Considering Derrick J Wyatt requested one of the admins to create a page for this wiki, it's likely they do but they don't care what people say.

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    • Even then, that doesn't mean that Cartoon Network and Man of Action can't listen to criticism and suggestions. That's by far such an important thing to have if you ever want to make improvements and fix all sorts of issues. If it's actual ideas, then that's understandable but that's not an excuse for why a company shouldn't listen to the fans and their criticisms and suggestions. Many companies in the entertainment industry listen to their fans. Capcom, EA and DICE, Respawn Entertainment, etc. From what I recall, Star Wars Rebels' first season was criticized for its focus on comedy. The team working on the show took note of that criticism and things greatly improved for the show from its second season onwards. I rather side with PIEGUYRULZ on this. Creators and networks should listen to the fans. They shouldn't rely on fan feedback too much but not too little either. Find the right and proper criticism of your shows and use that criticism to properly improve on your shows' quality.

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    • Holy wall of text, Batman!

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    • @Ochoa, even if they Man of Action does listen to our complaints, I don't think they can do much to change the show to our liking. Cartoon Network might have way more say over what happens in the show than we think, and I doubt the network cares what we think. We're not their concern anymore. They're focusing on the current generation of kids.

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    • UltiVerse wrote:
      @Ochoa, even if they Man of Action does listen to our complaints, I don't think they can do much to change the show to our liking. Cartoon Network might have way more say over what happens in the show than we think, and I doubt the network cares what we think. We're not their concern anymore. They're focusing on the current generation of kids.

      Indeed. When Alien Force was still on TV, one of the writers had said they had a major story planned for Season 3 and was going to center around Kevin's absorption powers - similar to Season 1 of Ultimate Alien - but Cartoon Network chickened out at the last minute, forcing the writers to scrap what they can resulting in the god-awful third season filled with mediocre episodes (with the exception of a few).

      So yes, CN is ultimately to blame for all this. I can assure you this is the main reason MoA's writing is not on par with Generator Rex, Avenger's EMH, and original Ben 10.

      Thank goodness a writer like Greg Weisman never went this route when Young Justice was still airing on Cartoon Network. 

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    • *sigh* If only Man of Action owned the rights to the franchise instead of the network.

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    • I don't really trust MoA or CN with it tbh

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    • Ben 10 deserves a whole new set of writers, honestly. I'd only pick Man of Action if it was a choice between them or the network.

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    • Alanomaly wrote:
      I don't really trust MoA or CN with it tbh


      Why do you not trust either of them?

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    • We've seen what CN does to the franchise, we've seen what MoA does to the franchise.

      Neither are very desireable.

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    • UltiVerse wrote:
      @Ochoa, even if they Man of Action does listen to our complaints, I don't think they can do much to change the show to our liking. Cartoon Network might have way more say over what happens in the show than we think, and I doubt the network cares what we think. We're not their concern anymore. They're focusing on the current generation of kids.

      There is that too.

      And yeah, I agree with Alanomaly. Even outside of Cartoon Network, Man of Action still hasn't been doing well in recent years; especially with Ultimate Spider-Man and Avengers Assemble. Yes, Disney could factor into those as well. Either way, even with the limitations that Man of Action has, they could've still tried to find a way to make things work yet they don't. Man of Action still deserves plenty of blame for not making good quality shows as well. Many don't see much promise with Man of Action's Mega Man show as well.

      Overall, Man of Action has definitely lost their touch in recent years and they're very much out of touch with the Ben 10 franchise as well.

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    • Alanomaly wrote:
      We've seen what CN does to the franchise, we've seen what MoA does to the franchise.

      Neither are very desireable.


      I think MoA's direction with the show isn't really their fault tbh. If CN wanted a new Gen Rex, then the Reboot would've been awesome. But they don't, they just want more Teen Titans Go. And as far as TTG clones go, at least the Reboot is passable. MoA treat the franchise with some respect, so at least it doesn't come off as insulting.

      I'm also a fan of the many alien cameos from the original continuity in the Reboot. I'm sure everyone remembers the Wildmutt mask, but there's also an episode where Ben Upgrade's a suit of armour which then looks like OV(2) Chromastone

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    • MoA said something about the art style being changed due to CN I believe or something similar, but I don't really think CN wanted the direction to be more like TTG or PPG. Many shows on CN such as Adventure Time, Steven Universe, O.K KO (coming August 1st), We Bare Bears, etc. aren't clones of TTG. I think MoA may've been influenced by TTG's success though, since TTG is doing pretty well.

      (MoA's other shows recently such as Avengers Assemble: Secret Wars have also become worse, the art style became way too simpified and the animation choppy - and the already bad storyline. I'm not excited for Mega Man 2018.)

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    • OS was only good because of the crew behind it, from the casting to the voice direction to the writers. Man of Action does not do much for the franchise.

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    • Yes, MoA was less involved in OS and the other series. I think they're more involved with the reboot, and will try to look up a source. (Interestingly, a few episodes have been written by writers of the original series, such as Steven Seagle.)

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    • I find that hard to believe that CN doesn't want the Ben 10 reboot to be more like Teen Titans Go!. Companies are always going to try and milk out anything that turns out to be successful. Even if many of CN's other recent shows aren't like Teen Titans Go!, they do follow the same trends that CN has been following in recent years and that Teen Titans Go! itself has elements of. The most obvious being CN always making the same/similar type of comedy shows over and over again. Another being CN's focus towards pop and internet culture and using memes, trying to be "hip" with their audience, which ends up leading to many of their shows feeling outdated. CN also likes to keep using the same artstyle across most, if not all, of their shows as well, including the Ben 10 reboot.

      Again, I doubt that CN isn't trying to make the Ben 10 reboot more like Teen Titans Go!.

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    • Oh yes, the Ben 10 reboot is definitely TTG. Look at all the episodes where they mock the audience! The abundance of fart jokes! And reused animation! Did I mention it was flash animated? WOAH!

      The reboot and TTG share almost nothing in common mate.

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    • I said "more like." Not "definitely." No, the Ben 10 reboot isn't definitely like Teen Titans Go! but they do have some similarities and they do follow the same trends that Cartoon Network implements into most of their recent shows.

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    • I added definitely there for added effect, bro. And what similarities do they even share? I listed some major things TTG has but Ben 10 didn't do.

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    • Yeah well don't. It seemed like you're misinterpreting what I'm saying.

      There's the points that I addressed in my previous comment. Most especially in regards to the greater emphasis on comedy; especially when compared to both shows' previous iterations. The direction with both shows have some similarities as well. Also, I said SOME similarities. Not major similarities. The Ben 10 reboot is really more similar to CN's other recent shows but does follow many of the trends that Teen Titans Go! established when it became very successful. Many fans and viewers even considered the Ben 10 reboot as Ben 10's version of Teen Titans Go! considering, again, the directions that both shows took especially when compared to their predecessors. Once again, there are SOME similarities between both shows. Not major similarities.

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    • Seeing that the only thing similar you listed is comedy, that does not make TTG a good comparison at all. You're implying that TTG somehow invented the comedy show for CN, when even Ben 10 had comedy (more prominent in OV, which is a better comparison to the reboot comedy wise).

      Many fans consider the reboot as the TTG for the Ben 10 franchise? If they have nothing to back it up, then that's just the dumbest comparison. A better comparison would be Ultimate Spiderman, as it is a comedy-focused version of the franchise, but doesn't use flash animation nor does it get rid of action.

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    • More comedy focused (if you can call it comedy, that is), a less than desireable art style, most of the writing is cringe, arguable the worst series/least popular of either franchise (personally I'd consider Reboot on part with OV). Or at least, that's why I consider it the TTG of the Ben 10 franchise.

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    • @Aaronbill3, what episode is that upgrade suit of armor you mentioned?

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    • Not entirely sure, but here are the screenshots

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    • The reboot could have a bit of potential then TTG.

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    • It does, after seeing Omni-Tricked. The reboot can be good when it wants to be, but that's the problem with the other 30+ episodes before it: They probably don't care about quality and more about the moola and success.

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    • Omni-Tricked was quite good imo, and I really hope the Reboot keeps up the level of quality that had, or possibly more.

      "They probably don't care about quality and more about the moola and success." I don't think there's any "probably" to it.

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    • The Upgrade suit of armor was "Scared Silly"

      Upgrade basically morphed onto some knight armor, then used it to fight a ghost.

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    • Yeah, Omni-Tricked was pretty good...or at least decent. I also find it to be significantly flawed as well but yes, it is pretty good.

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    • How do you think it was flawed?

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    • All my thoughts and opinions on Omni-Tricked are on here...plus a Twitter conversation between me and a couple of other fans that covered more about the episode, which I linked onto the page. Enjoy my "wall of text," as Alanomaly would put it as.

      http://tacticalochoa122.deviantart.com/journal/Ben-10-2016-Reboot-Episode-Review-Omni-Tricked-686015012

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    • PrimalFan wrote:
      It does, after seeing Omni-Tricked. The reboot can be good when it wants to be, but that's the problem with the other 30+ episodes before it: They probably don't care about quality and more about the moola and success.


      There was a good number of reboot episodes before Omni-Tricked that weren't really that bad. In fact, all of the episodes of the Reboot aren't even close to being as bad as the Bentuition shorts.

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    • Alanomaly wrote:
      Omni-Tricked was quite good imo, and I really hope the Reboot keeps up the level of quality that had, or possibly more.

      "They probably don't care about quality and more about the moola and success." I don't think there's any "probably" to it.

      True but that was only one episode the next episode could probably go back to square one being a trash episode.  

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    • Ok first i respect all the opinions but i want to rate the reboot

      1 Name - actually I would like it to have a original name, since it's a completely different stroy than original

      2 Plot- Tbh even great show like Steven Universe have Imo weak 1 season about plot and in Reboot we already have few good episodes due to plot

      3 Animation - I dont's like many things about animation, mostly disregarding details in the background but (don't kill me please) I like look of few aliens in reboot, more than in original

      4 Overall - I do agree that's by far It's the worst Ben 10 series, but I still like it 

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    • In short - yeah, I kinda think the Reboot sucks.  TL;DR, but well-reasoned imho:

      I'm chuffed that Ben 10 has been so successful since the original series, but I'm hoping for a series which utilizes a more realistic and flattering animation style, or even CGI - like that used in "Ben 10: Destroy All Aliens" - but with the late-teens characters of, e.g., "Alien Force" and "Ultimate Alien".  Something that can appeal to a 13 to 18 demographic, or even adullts - the dedicated, original Ben 10 fans after all.  "Reboot" has a particularily comical animation style, not to mention scripts and plots, which seem far more "Family Guy" or "American Dad".  The new style does a complete disservice to the Ben 10 property, making the series more of a tongue-in-cheek joke and less the action and adventure sci-fi/superhero classic it has always been. 

      There was plenty of room for humor in all the Ben 10 series, but this is a self-deprecating style that detracts from the whole franchise - nudging it ever-closer to a sputtering demise. Consider what CGI has done for the Star Wars franchise, or the more visually realistic, less-comical animation styling of Marvel's super-hero offerings - each of which continue to flourish, both in animated and live-action forms. 

      I really hope that the creators and current production team see the wisdom in moving toward a more flattering and ultimately successful format for any future development - that is, if this Reboot doesn't steal the entire franchise's mojo first.

      Make it so, Man of Action, Make It So.

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    • You didn't need to bold the words, it kinda hurts my eyes.

      Back on topic, I think that going with Destroy All Aliens' CGI is a bad move. The CGI is pretty ugly and I've seen some people compare it to a PS2 game on Twitter. They have to go with something a little higher quality like Miraculous Ladybug or something. But even then I believe Ben 10 should be 2D, as that allows more room for more out there animation, like bending water or shape shifting, without using too much money on CGI.

      I do agree that Ben 10 needs something more aimed at teens and adults, perhaps a spin off that takes place in an alternate universe would do some justice. Or why not a movie dedicated to the older fans?

      I would like to see a live action take on Ben 10, perhaps something similar to Kamen Rider, which allows the series to be slightly darker but still sells toys in a smart way. It could use some of the humanoid aliens to be good suits and cover their mouths with a mask to prevent them from animating mouth movement, as well as giving them alien exclusive weapons. Like a DNA Sword that chagnes its blades depending on the alien Ben's in.

      Anyways I like how you are able to criticize the Ben 10 series without going off as whiny.

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    • On the CGI note, I think it'd be cool to have the transformation sequences be in CGI, given that it's higher quality than DAA's CGI.

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    • I am not sure if a live action take on Ben 10 would be workable. I think they should make a Ben 10 series that can appeal to people of all ages.

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    • Superbike10 wrote:
      I am not sure if a live action take on Ben 10 would be workable. I think they should make a Ben 10 series that can appeal to people of all ages.


      That would be cool.

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    • I have only seen one episode and didn't really care for the series. In my personal opinion these are my faves in order:

      1.)OS

      2.)UAF

      3.)Omniverse

      4.)Reboot

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    • Seriously why dont they just make a spin off of Gwen instead of the reboot? At least its a sequel...

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    • @BCRZ I am with you, buddy! A sequel/spin-off series with Gwen and Charmcaster would rock!

      They were so close to picking it up as well but it ultimately fell through in the end. Close and yet so far I say.

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    • I also heard that CN is concerned about the toy production line? I dont really know but i guess if the merchandice failed, so will the show

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    • Yeah, that's the case. But at the same time, if they don't put actual quality into the show, no one's gonna want any merch from it. It's a viscious cycle that CN could pull itself out of but apparently chooses not to by not making the show as quality as it could be.

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    • This is my speculation: if the reboot somewhat failed, thats it, thats the end of Ben 10. However, if the reboot gets at least a decent review, MOA and CN would make and air a serious sequel to OV, or just make more seasons of the reboot. This is again, all fall to the hands of the creators and CN. We were beyond control, and we can just accept whats prepared at the table.

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    • Curtman2016 wrote:
      @BCRZ I am with you, buddy! A sequel/spin-off series with Gwen and Charmcaster would rock!

      They were so close to picking it up as well but it ultimately fell through in the end. Close and yet so far I say.

      Actually the last I heard the lucky girl spin off is being put on hold.

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    • @BCRZ Exactly, my friend! Exactly!

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    • @Superbike10 That is good to hear! Hopefully it comes to fruition within the next 2-4 years! :)

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    • BCRZ wrote:
      I also heard that CN is concerned about the toy production line? I dont really know but i guess if the merchandice failed, so will the show

      It would be pretty laughable if this was true. They canceled a lot of great shows due to the toys not selling. Why in this day of age do they still rely on toy sales for profit? This is 2017 for crying out loud, not the 1980s! I've seen children as young as seven with an iPhone. Do you think kids are going to care about plastic merchandise? 

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    • Michael Morningstar wrote:
      BCRZ wrote:
      I also heard that CN is concerned about the toy production line? I dont really know but i guess if the merchandice failed, so will the show
      It would be pretty laughable if this was true. They canceled a lot of great shows due to the toys not selling. Why in this day of age do they still rely on toy sales for profit? This is 2017 for crying out loud, not the 1980s! I've seen children as young as seven with an iPhone. Do you think kids are going to care about plastic merchandise? 

      And to add onto that, I'll reiterate my point. Kids these days are going to care even less about said plastic merchandise if the show said merchandise comes from doesn't have (a lot of) quality put into it

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    • And there's some more factors that contributes to the Ben 10 reboot merchandise most likely not going to do well in sales. Things are already not looking well for the show. The amount of times the Ben 10 reboot is airing each week has decreased greatly. I recall it only aired last week in the US like 28 times compared to the 70-80 times it aired per week after it premiered in the US and it's been over a month now since they aired a new season 1 episode. By the way, do you remember where you heard that CN is concerned about the Ben 10 toy production line, BCRZ? Just curious.

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    • The reboot might not be doing well in the US, but it's doing well internationally since it's regularly in other regions. Playmates Toys also said its success is the reason is the reason they're planning bigger and better playsets.

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    • Playmates themselves said it's very popular and the two versions of the Omnitrix are selling really well.

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    • Great Ochoa wrote: And there's some more factors that contributes to the Ben 10 reboot merchandise most likely not going to do well in sales. Things are already not looking well for the show. The amount of times the Ben 10 reboot is airing each week has decreased greatly. I recaUAll it only aired last week in the US like 28 times compared to the 70-80 times it aired per week after it premiered in the US and it's been over a month now since they aired a new season 1 episode. By the way, do you remember where you heard that CN is concerned about the Ben 10 toy production line, BCRZ? Just curious.

      Im sorry but i forgot... Based from what i can recall, i think i read it from the youtube comments when im watching ben 10 UA: Couples Retreat, or i read it at somewhere at the forums.

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    • Great Ochoa wrote:
      And there's some more factors that contributes to the Ben 10 reboot merchandise most likely not going to do well in sales. Things are already not looking well for the show. The amount of times the Ben 10 reboot is airing each week has decreased greatly. I recall it only aired last week in the US like 28 times compared to the 70-80 times it aired per week after it premiered in the US and it's been over a month now since they aired a new season 1 episode. By the way, do you remember where you heard that CN is concerned about the Ben 10 toy production line, BCRZ? Just curious.


      You'd think airing it less would mean it was doing worse, but that's not how CN works. For some reason. How many times did Steven Universe air last week? I'm going to hazard a guess at somewhere between not at all or maybe a few reruns. And yet Steven Universe is still CN's most popular show in the teenage-young adult demographic. There are new episodes they could be airing, but they won't.

      How many times it airs in the US is not an indication of success when it comes to CN. You want to look at how it does abroad.

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    • Good point.

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    • The way I see it is that cartoon network in the U.S had not been well managed as it's foreign counterparts especially it's live network.

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    • Yeah I have to agree. It seems as though they're putting all their eggs in one basket, as it were. Which is strange given that they haven't renewed TTG for another season- at least not that I've seen.

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    • I don't like the reboot, I have watched Ben 10 franchise for 12 years and personally, I miss Ben 10 Ultimate Alien and that animation. Yes, Ben 10 Omniverse wasn't brilliant and the redesigns were bad but at least they were 22 minutes. The reboot episodes are 11 minutes. I tell you, Regular Show, Adventure Time and Amazing World of Gumball are all 11 minutes. So really, it takes the seriousness out of the franchise and turns it into a comedy show. Damning. Damning for every ben 10 fan.

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    • Oh wait I think i know why the reboot was caused because of The Flash

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    • And how exactly does the flash have anything to do with Ben 10 reboot?

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    • CAN YOU PLEASE STOP CALLING THAT THING REBOOT?

      it is like calling Teen Titans Go the rebbot to teet titans.

      This new Ben 10 doesn't even have a storilyne it is just fooling around.

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    • whether you like it or not is irrelevant. This series is a reboot of the Ben 10 continuity.

      And also yes there is a storyline, even if not one long consistent one. Ben now has an Upgraded Omnitrix, meaning the story has progressed.

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    • Vilgax99 wrote: CAN YOU PLEASE STOP CALLING THAT THING REBOOT?

      it is like calling Teen Titans Go the rebbot to teet titans.

      This new Ben 10 doesn't even have a storilyne it is just fooling around.

      This is a reboot, like it or not it IS a reboot, you do know that calling it the reboot isnt actually a problem. Considering that is the one thing seperating it from the original. The only problem that would arise is if i called it "the one and only ben 10 series".

      Perhaps next time youll take the time too think terms and proper names through, before spouting off.

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    • Trigger009 wrote:
      And how exactly does the flash have anything to do with Ben 10 reboot?

      Since Flash has ruined timelines in the past, in my opinion, the Flash might have come to the Ben 10 universe after when he would have left created the flash point (Ben 10 reboot).

      Ben 10 + The Flash (CW series) = Ben 10 reboot

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    • KFCcloseddown wrote:

      Trigger009 wrote:
      And how exactly does the flash have anything to do with Ben 10 reboot?

      Since Flash has ruined timelines in the past, in my opinion, the Flash might have come to the Ben 10 universe after when he would have left created the flash point (Ben 10 reboot).

      Ben 10 + The Flash (CW series) = Ben 10 reboot

      I can't tell if you're joking or not, hard to tell over the internet without an lol or jk or something along those lines.

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    • Wait he might be onto something. Flashpoint doesn't really make sense (even from the standpoint of a timey wimey story) and the Reboot has things that don't make sense (Stinkfly being a winged humanoid more similar to Big Chill, Wildvine not really looking much like Wildvine at all, half the dialogue of the show overall), so maybe it's actually Kinecelepoint! After all Reboot XLR8 seems to think he can go that fast!

      this entire post is extreme sarcasm pls no take seriously

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    • In one of the interviews, Man of Action said that the reboot was going to be a puzzle, and that we were supposed to find the peices of the puzzle to make the big picture. I can kinda see were the reboot is going. The first season wasn't really that bad. I can kind of see forshadowing. The weatherheads will most likely return, the Upgraded Omnitrix will eventually give Ben some alien enhancements, and the show will also gradually get better. It already is getting better anyway, it was getting better after every episode. And the first episode of the second season is supposed to be a two part episode according to wikipedia.

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    • Mojo331 wrote:
      In one of the interviews, Man of Action said that the reboot was going to be a puzzle, and that we were supposed to find the peices of the puzzle to make the big picture. I can kinda see were the reboot is going. The first season wasn't really that bad. I can kind of see forshadowing. The weatherheads will most likely return, the Upgraded Omnitrix will eventually give Ben some alien enhancements, and the show will also gradually get better. It already is getting better anyway, it was getting better after every episode. And the first episode of the second season is supposed to be a two part episode according to wikipedia.

      Don't believe everything you read on Wikipedia it could be false.  

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    • And I am 100% sure when season 2 will start it will go back to being a trashy reboot. 

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    • KFCcloseddown wrote:
      And I am 100% sure when season 2 will start it will go back to being a trashy reboot. 


      Why do you say that?

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    • I don't like the new B10 either. I loved how the characters of the former series evolved, how they handled personal conflicts, relationships... The creators made such progress with Ultimate Alien, and even Omniverse has had a little seriousness. The new series has NOTHING of that, I don't even see how he gets his "watch" at the beginning. There is no development, just very childish trash.

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    • HelloMotoo wrote:
      I don't like the new B10 either. I loved how the characters of the former series evolved, how they handled personal conflicts, relationships... The creators made such progress with Ultimate Alien, and even Omniverse has had a little seriousness. The new series has NOTHING of that, I don't even see how he gets his "watch" at the beginning. There is no development, just very childish trash.

      It's not childish trash. And Ben has been serious in the reboot before. And we already know how Ben got his watch. And also, Ben is smarter in the reboot anyway, and there were only a few situations where Ben needed to be serioius in season 1.

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    • Mojo331 wrote:

      HelloMotoo wrote:
      I don't like the new B10 either. I loved how the characters of the former series evolved, how they handled personal conflicts, relationships... The creators made such progress with Ultimate Alien, and even Omniverse has had a little seriousness. The new series has NOTHING of that, I don't even see how he gets his "watch" at the beginning. There is no development, just very childish trash.

      It's not childish trash. And Ben has been serious in the reboot before. And we already know how Ben got his watch. And also, Ben is smarter in the reboot anyway, and there were only a few situations where Ben needed to be serioius in season 1.

      Yet it is part of the series how he gets his watch, and if they want to do a reboot they should reboot everything. I wanna see him learning how he handles the watch and its responsibility as part of the audience. Everything about the new version is much more childish than before. The design, the humor and the characters themselves. There's no deep development like in Ultimate Alien, no serious problems, just childish jokes. And besides the audio sync is a catastrophe, but that's not the author's issue.

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    • HelloMotoo wrote:

      Mojo331 wrote:

      HelloMotoo wrote:
      I don't like the new B10 either. I loved how the characters of the former series evolved, how they handled personal conflicts, relationships... The creators made such progress with Ultimate Alien, and even Omniverse has had a little seriousness. The new series has NOTHING of that, I don't even see how he gets his "watch" at the beginning. There is no development, just very childish trash.
      It's not childish trash. And Ben has been serious in the reboot before. And we already know how Ben got his watch. And also, Ben is smarter in the reboot anyway, and there were only a few situations where Ben needed to be serioius in season 1.

      Yet it is part of the series how he gets his watch, and if they want to do a reboot they should reboot everything. I wanna see him learning how he handles the watch and its responsibility as part of the audience. Everything about the new version is much more childish than before. The design, the humor and the characters themselves. There's no deep development like in Ultimate Alien, no serious problems, just childish jokes. And besides the audio sync is a catastrophe, but that's not the author's issue.

      Did you ever watch a single episode of the reboot? There are serious problems in it. Vilgax about to kill Ben, Zombozo trying to mind control everyone in Adrenaworld, Animo mutating people, Animo enslaving Accidental mutants, Hydromanders awoken, Docile Dragon awoken, Micheal Morningstar feeding off people's energy, Steam Smythe stealing historical artifacts and using them as weapons, and more. And the reboot doesn't even have that many jokes. And and how is the design childish? If it's so easy, why don't you go make an animation and draw the same people for 11 minutes making them look exactly the same  and make 40 episodes of that. If not, don't trash talk the animation.

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    • I don't think Motoo is saying it's easy. If anything, Motoo just has the same complaint many people have about the quality (or lack there of, depending on your view of it) of the art style and how it's animated. I wouldn't necessarily say childish but I can agree that it's... not the best. It definitely could (and personally I say should) be improved. "If not, don't trash talk the animation." So, what, if Motoo can't do better, they're not allowed to express their negative opinions on it?

      As for jokes/gags, yeah, there aren't too many, but when they happen, they are extremely cringe worthy.

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    • Imo the jokes work really when when implemented properly, and most of the jokes are better compared to Omniverse. The animation is not as fluid as OV and besides the main trio, the humans look very unappealing.

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    • We could've gotten a Ben 10,000 series but instead we got ben 10 Reboot

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    • Echoson wrote:
      Imo the jokes work really when when implemented properly, and most of the jokes are better compared to Omniverse. The animation is not as fluid as OV and besides the main trio, the humans look very unappealing.


      I liked the Omniverse jokes best. They made me laugh more than any of the other series.

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    • Superbike10 wrote:
      The way I see it is that cartoon network in the U.S had not been well managed as it's foreign counterparts especially it's live network.

      You couldn't have said it better. The U.S division of Cartoon Network has awful management; they gave shows little to no advertising, unexpected hiatuses, and removing shows with little to no explanation with a ridiculous statement stating "they didn't sell enough toys". I'm looking at you: Young Justice, Generator Rex, Thundercats, Sym-Bionic Titan, Beware the Batman, and various others. It's no wonder they have a huge list of their shows on Screwed by the Network on TV Tropes.

      Thankfully the former is getting a third season (possibly more) and it's going to be shown on a streaming service so they won't have to deal with their garbage.

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    • Michael Morningstar wrote:
      Superbike10 wrote:
      The way I see it is that cartoon network in the U.S had not been well managed as it's foreign counterparts especially it's live network.
      You couldn't have said it better. The U.S division of Cartoon Network has awful management; they gave shows little to no advertising, unexpected hiatuses, and removing shows with little to no explanation with a ridiculous statement stating "they didn't sell enough toys". I'm looking at you: Young Justice, Generator Rex, Thundercats, Sym-Bionic Titan, Beware the Batman, and various others. It's no wonder they have a huge list of their shows on Screwed by the Network on TV Tropes.

      Thankfully the former is getting a third season (possibly more) and it's going to be shown on a streaming service so they won't have to deal with their garbage.

      Tenkai Knight, Star Wars the clone wars and Pokamon were good shows as well on Cartoon Network. Tenkai Knights status is unknown after season one.  Star Wars the clone wars got cancelled because Disney bought it and created the horrible Star Wars Rebles and Pokamon just moved to disney XD.


      Well if Ben 10 and DC have one thing in common at the moment it is making horrible reboots.


      At least Disney XD is giving me Yo Kai Watch and The Marvel shows.


      And I am looking to Young Justice season 3.


      Well i live in the UK and i am glad that we don't have a schedule like in USA no offence.   

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    • KFCcloseddown wrote:
      Michael Morningstar wrote:
      Superbike10 wrote:
      The way I see it is that cartoon network in the U.S had not been well managed as it's foreign counterparts especially it's live network.
      You couldn't have said it better. The U.S division of Cartoon Network has awful management; they gave shows little to no advertising, unexpected hiatuses, and removing shows with little to no explanation with a ridiculous statement stating "they didn't sell enough toys". I'm looking at you: Young Justice, Generator Rex, Thundercats, Sym-Bionic Titan, Beware the Batman, and various others. It's no wonder they have a huge list of their shows on Screwed by the Network on TV Tropes.

      Thankfully the former is getting a third season (possibly more) and it's going to be shown on a streaming service so they won't have to deal with their garbage.

      Tenkai Knight, Star Wars the clone wars and Pokamon were good shows as well on Cartoon Network. Tenkai Knights status is unknown after season one.  Star Wars the clone wars got cancelled because Disney bought it and created the horrible Star Wars Rebles and Pokamon just moved to disney XD.


      Well if Ben 10 and DC have one thing in common at the moment it is making horrible reboots.


      At least Disney XD is giving me Yo Kai Watch and The Marvel shows.


      And I am looking to Young Justice season 3.


      Well i live in the UK and i am glad that we don't have a schedule like in USA no offence.   

      Ben 10 made only 1 reboot, and it's not even that bad.

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    • KFCcloseddown wrote:
      Michael Morningstar wrote:
      Superbike10 wrote:
      The way I see it is that cartoon network in the U.S had not been well managed as it's foreign counterparts especially it's live network.
      You couldn't have said it better. The U.S division of Cartoon Network has awful management; they gave shows little to no advertising, unexpected hiatuses, and removing shows with little to no explanation with a ridiculous statement stating "they didn't sell enough toys". I'm looking at you: Young Justice, Generator Rex, Thundercats, Sym-Bionic Titan, Beware the Batman, and various others. It's no wonder they have a huge list of their shows on Screwed by the Network on TV Tropes.

      Thankfully the former is getting a third season (possibly more) and it's going to be shown on a streaming service so they won't have to deal with their garbage.

      Tenkai Knight, Star Wars the clone wars and Pokamon were good shows as well on Cartoon Network. Tenkai Knights status is unknown after season one.  Star Wars the clone wars got cancelled because Disney bought it and created the horrible Star Wars Rebles and Pokamon just moved to disney XD.


      Well if Ben 10 and DC have one thing in common at the moment it is making horrible reboots.


      At least Disney XD is giving me Yo Kai Watch and The Marvel shows.


      And I am looking to Young Justice season 3.


      Well i live in the UK and i am glad that we don't have a schedule like in USA no offence.   

      None taken. :)

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    • The things you listed were anime, as in, not created by Cartoon Network. CN has no rights to reboot Pokemon.

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    • Star Wars: Rebels at first seems childish but continue watching it and you'll notice it gets darker at moments like Clone Wars. And DC has only made a few reboots in the past couple of years (Beware the Batman - which people liked, Justice League Action - people also liked it, and Teen Titans Go - very divisive series), and Ben 10 has only made 1 reboot. Marvel shows have also made 4 reboots recently and all of them haven't been critically received well.

      (This is going a bit off-topic, sorry)

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    • the reboot is great and Frightwig/Reboot is cute.

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    • And if people are saying the reboot isn't bad then why has IMDB only scored it 2.7/10?

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    • It's perspective. Some think the reboot is bad, some think it is good. Some don't even care. 

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    • And another worse part of the reboot is they cast Yuri Lowanthal as VILGAX. Just WHY?

      He voiced Ben for a good 5-6 years and now they are ruining it...!

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    • KFCcloseddown wrote:
      And another worse part of the reboot is they cast Yuri Lowanthal as VILGAX. Just WHY?

      He voiced Ben for a good 5-6 years [...]


      That was the point. Yuri voicing Vilgax is an easter egg for old fans to catch. It also has the healthy side-effect of making Gax sound like an alien version of young Ben.

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    • I don't have that much of a problem with Yuri voicing Gax. It's him voicing Vilgax that I have an issue with. He's just too mismatched of a choice to portray that very villain even if he is just an easter egg. I say it would've been better if Yuri voiced Gax and Steve Blum voiced Vilgax.

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    • Great Ochoa wrote:
      I don't have that much of a problem with Yuri voicing Gax. It's him voicing Vilgax that I have an issue with. He's just too mismatched of a choice to portray that very villain even if he is just an easter egg. I say it would've been better if Yuri voiced Gax and Steve Blum voiced Vilgax.

      I agree he was fine as Gax but they could have hired someone like Kevin Micheal Richardson, Crispin Freeman, Clancy Brown, Ron Perlman or Mark Hamil to voice Vilgax.

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    • When you guys grow up would you show your kids the ben 10 reboot? 

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    • Probably.

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    • Maybe. If I end up having kids in the future, I would like to introduce them to shows like Courage the Cowardly Dog, Kids Next Door, Ed Edd n Eddy, etc though.

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    • Nope, it'd be the original 4 series of Ben 10.

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    • KFCcloseddown wrote: When you guys grow up would you show your kids the ben 10 reboot? 

      No and yes, allow me tp explain, i would want to show my kids quality cartoons, then show them/expose them to stuff like the reboot. And shows like ppg 2016 and teen titans go, to teach them the difference between a good series and a shameless cash grab/reboot.

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    • I'll let them watch for themselves and form their own opinion about it.

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    • If I had kids, I'd let them watch what they want, as long as it doesn't involve anything that could get anybody in prison (like repetitive copyright infringment or pirated movies). If they wanna watch the reboot, I'd let them, not force them

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    • Echoson wrote:
      I'll let them watch for themselves and form their own opinion about it.

      But would you want to show them something that would kill their brain cells? (Make them stupid)

      Does anyone think the reboot is in that direction, a show that would kill their brain cells?

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    • No.

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    • wow, that's surprising ochoa

      Obviously not, no show is able to do that.

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    • Shouldn't be. Sure, I said plenty of stupid things myself that thinking back on I would reconsider on and admit were stupid to say. Sure, I find the Ben 10 reboot to be mediocre and bland. I even saw a few episodes from season 2 and I still find the show to be pretty bland and mediocre and just more of the same as season 1. To say that this show "kills brain cells" though? No, that's obviously ridiculous to say. You are right. No show is pretty much able to do that.

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    • One of the things I value most in series is consistency in the story and the world. And which series of Ben 10 is the most consistent?

      It's the reboot.

      In OS, the first inconsistency I can think of is how Ben never showed us how and when he unlocked and learnt how to use Eye Guy, which defeats what the show had been about up until this point. After that, Alien Force happens and canon immediately becomes a tangled mess.

      Since I'm in the minority of people on this thread that actually likes the reboot, I see no reason not to show the reboot to my kids. Would I show it to them first? Maybe not, I'm not sure.

      However, if I were judging the series solely on the quality of Animo as a villain, the order I showed the series to my children would go like this:

      Reboot > OS > OV > AF > UA

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    • Really? I found the reboot to be pretty inconsistent; especially with the Omnitrix, such as how often times when the Omnitrix times out, it would either take second to an entire episodefor the Omnitrix to recharge. Same for when Ben does use the Omnitrix. He's either in alien form for like a minute or two or for most to an entire episode. That's not just it as well. There are other inconsistencies in the reboot. When Ben goes into that monster to rescue Max, we see a drop of stomach acid burn Max's hand a little and the gold that the monster swallowed being digested in the stomach acid and yet later on Gwen ends up getting covered in stomach acid after the monster threw up and nothing happens to her. There's an episode in season 2 where Ben gets sea sick yet he's been out in water plenty of times before in previous episodes of the reboot. There's plenty of inconsistencies that the reboot contains.

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      1. The Omnitrix has always been inconsistent. In OS, Ben spent nearly an entire episode as Grey Matter.
      2. I'm fine with a single episode goofing over the entire canon goofing.
      3. As someone who has been seasick before, and has been around people who get seasick, you don't always get seasick every time you're on a boat. It can depend on the conditions, or even just your general mood.
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    • Yeah, Ben spends almost an entire episode as Grey Matter...because he was tempering with the Omnitrix. He kept messing around with it and treating it like a toy. Even in later seasons we see him messing with the Omnitrix. As a result, the Omnitrix did end up being pretty inconsistent. That's fine because there's a valid reason as to why the Omnitrix was pretty inconsistent in the original show.

      In the reboot however, Ben didn't mess with the Omnitrix as often and yet it still showed plenty of inconsistency. The Omnitrix even rebooted itself in one episode to fix the issues that Ben caused from tampering with it yet it's still pretty inconsistent.

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    • And what excuse is there for the inconsistencies in the Omniverse Omnitrix?

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    • According to Azmuth, Ben kept hitting the Omnitrix too hard. It's in the Omniverse episode, For a Few Brains More. You can look it up yourself on this very wiki. Not as good of an excuse as Ben actually messing with the Omnitrix but I guess it's acceptable enough.

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    • That was the excuse for the mistransformations and given that the Omniverse trix had a rather more precise looking UI, I quite like it as one. I was asking what the excuse for the varying transformation times was.

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